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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (3)08-15-2024, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HelpABrotherOut

First of all, the NMB is savvy enough to understand we have a Scheduling Chairman, even if the acronym SIG is unique to this property.

Do you honestly believe they actually care who our committee chairs are besides Negotiating Committee?

Also, our MEC Chair is a total genius that wanted to can the SIG Chair (the one with almost 20 years of scheduling experience) and insert a complete lunatic (MEC Security, WTF?). Great timing, lets put an unqualified nut in place during the most important and consequential airline schedule change in the history of FedEx. This MEC is un-fing-hinged.

We had unqualified nuts running the show for YEARS. That’s how we ended up with a failed TA.

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (7)08-15-2024, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hemaybedid

Im sure with all of your experience and knowledge you can figure it out. Just don’t lean too much on history, or you’ll never figure it out. I believe in you!

About what I figured. Your crew gets real quiet when there's any details involved.

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

Do you honestly believe they actually care who our committee chairs are besides Negotiating Committee?

We had unqualified nuts running the show for YEARS. That’s how we ended up with a failed TA.

They look at the whole organization for stability. MEC Officers, NC, Block Reps and key committees.

There's always a long line of loudmouths, but never a long line of volunteers for union positions. Pretty easy to criticize when you don't have a clue.

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (13)08-15-2024, 08:43 PM

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (14)SIG is infiltrated by companymen

Originally Posted by HelpABrotherOut

First of all, the NMB is savvy enough to understand we have a Scheduling Chairman, even if the acronym SIG is unique to this property.

Also, our MEC Chair is a total genius that wanted to can the SIG Chair (the one with almost 20 years of scheduling experience) and insert a complete lunatic (MEC Security, WTF?). Great timing, lets put an unqualified nut in place during the most important and consequential airline schedule change in the history of FedEx. This MEC is un-fing-hinged.

Kudos to the rest of the SIG/PSIT team for standing up!

I seem to recall a time that the west coast was all 24 hour layovers. But we gave them relief didn't we? Did we make a gain for giving them relief? I love when the SIG chair makes calls without consulting the MEC on agreements with the company. Sweet move SIG.

I loved the sunrise sort. That was dope. Glad we "helped out" on that one and still find ourselves with a concessionary TA. Thanks SIG!

Our lives have not gotten better under this SIG. Of course they will all be incensed and say we are "ungrateful" or "if you know so much, you do it" because that's the standard response. News flash - everyone in this union is replacable. Including the SIG.

Didn't like getting punched in the face with ridiculous times to operate a plane? Get them more "data" guys. Then life will get better. Even a monkey would see these pairings are RIDICULOUS without having to fly them first to collect "data".

Can someone explain how the SIG seems to be a flow through for management positions? Coincidence? No.

Wake up everyone.

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So was the Sig chair fired or not?

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (19)08-16-2024, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hemaybedid

The Tony ticker is cute, but my ticker started Nov ‘21. I did the math the other day and by using verrry conservative numbers, that hopefully most wouldn’t accept, I’m owed over 130k in retro. 6 months of that time was FO, all narrow body.

So, 6 months as a 757 FO, and 27.5 months as a 757 CAP and you are owed over $130,000 in retro. Isn't the 757 one of those airframes that has been bought up for well over a year? Yeah, your going to have to show your math on that one.

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Originally Posted by easyflyer

I seem to recall a time that the west coast was all 24 hour layovers. But we gave them relief didn't we? Did we make a gain for giving them relief? I love when the SIG chair makes calls without consulting the MEC on agreements with the company. Sweet move SIG.

I loved the sunrise sort. That was dope. Glad we "helped out" on that one and still find ourselves with a concessionary TA. Thanks SIG!

Our lives have not gotten better under this SIG. Of course they will all be incensed and say we are "ungrateful" or "if you know so much, you do it" because that's the standard response. News flash - everyone in this union is replacable. Including the SIG.

Didn't like getting punched in the face with ridiculous times to operate a plane? Get them more "data" guys. Then life will get better. Even a monkey would see these pairings are RIDICULOUS without having to fly them first to collect "data".

Can someone explain how the SIG seems to be a flow through for management positions? Coincidence? No.

Wake up everyone.

There hasn't been a time this century when every west coast layover was 24 hours.

The SIG did not create the sunrise sort.

The SIG does not build the pairings.

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (25)08-16-2024, 04:50 AM

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (27)

Not sure about all west coast layovers but our old 8 n 24 restriction (given up in 06 or 15)
used to keep 12 hr westcoast layovers to a minimum.

The FCH had WAY better work rules than we have now. But that was before we had a union that makes money off pay rates vs QOL.

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (29)08-16-2024, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MEMA300

Not sure about all west coast layovers but our old 8 n 24 restriction (given up in 06 or 15)
used to keep 12 hr westcoast layovers to a minimum.

The FCH had WAY better work rules than we have now. But that was before we had a union that makes money off pay rates vs QOL.

I'm not sure what old 8 in 24 restriction you are talking about. Even in the 1999 contract, you could be scheduled to exceed 8 in 24 in certain situations. The change you are refering to happended in the 2015 contract, and only effects day time flying. So come October, it shouldn't be an issue any more.

Keeping west coast layovers of 12 hours to a minimum is way different than every west coast layover being at least 24 hours.

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Wilson Says: What's really happening new MEC - Page 9 (32)08-16-2024, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rum Runner

So was the Sig chair fired or not?

I'm wondering the same thing. No messages from the union. Is this transparent MEC selectively leaving out items that occured at their special meeting?

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